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Black Ops Ranger · Sep 25, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

I love playing Rangers
I love playing in Randoms

All my previous attempts to mix the two have ended up with an ally using res sig calling me a noob.

Can someone help me?

I like Barrage but also have Poisen Arrow and Oath Shot for my elites

Offer any Random Arena Builds you can think of

PS: No Touchers or Bunny Thumpers, I want to play like a Ranger (Ranging or Trapping)

P!zz@ · Sep 25, 2006, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Try my beastmaster/poison build:

Ferocious Strike
Brutal Strike
Call of Haste
Apply Poison
Troll Unguent/Whirling Defense/Predatory Bond (I usually take Whirling, but thats up to you)
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res Signet

I find that its a pretty solid Pressure build.

Munanko Roha · Sep 27, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

In RA you're gonna find loads of Warriors.

Cripshot is your best friend, add Apply Poison, Troll Unguent, Distracting Shot, Hunter Shot to add pressure, Whirling Defence or Throw Dirt, obviously a Rez Sig and a utility slot, could be Blackout, a kind of Trap or what you feel comfortable with...and you got the classic Cripshot Ranger, one of the best builds ever seen!

Stranger The Ranger · Sep 27, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Broad Head Arrow is a great skill for RA after it got buffed, won a couple of glad points with this build:

Marks:12
Exper: 14
WS: 10

Bread Head Arrow[E]
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot/Needling Shot
Apply Poison
Pin Down
Troll Unguent
Whirling Defence
Res Signet

Just Daze your target, but beware with BHA's arc. Use the interrupt shots to hit your target fast.
Take Pin Down so you'll also do some dmg to Touchers/Warriors

SnipiousMax · Sep 27, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

^Don't bother with Broad Head Arrow... take Crippling Shot or Poison Arrow.

There are two things you need to beat in RA. The team that wins the most battles in RA is the team that has both a monk, and a warrior with an elite offensive skill. So build to break the monk, and annoy the warrior.

Daze is an underpowered condition, it really isn't worth the price or trouble of getting it applied. Rather you should focus on spreading as many conditions as possible to as many on the opposing team as possible. The will get removed, purged, Plauge touched, etc, but that's not the point. The point is that they have to address the conditions or they will get rolled. Personally, my favorite combo is Crippling Shot with Apply Poison. Add hunter's shot and you have three conditions that you can easily apply to the other team. Apply rather than Poison Arrow because you can spread it, and keep it on all four people. Throw dirt is also great to annoy warriors and it's another condition. Bring at least one interrupt, and an evasion stance. Troll ungent is meh in my book, but you're milage may vary.

In short, break the monk with conditions, annoy the warrior.

Stranger The Ranger · Sep 27, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

^Don't bother with Broad Head Arrow... take Crippling Shot or Poison Arrow.

Yeah, but I was getting really, really tired of those E/Mo Flashbots, I decided to take BHA for a little revenge

The build turned out pretty nice, and like I said, I won some glad points with it by shutting down most casters(most Monk just CoP it off ;<).
However, for TA, Cripshot > BHA all the way

holden · Sep 27, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

melandru's arrow
dual shot
peneatrating attack
distracting shot
troll unguent
whirling D
dodge
res

take advantage of all the enchantments running around....ele's, monks, wammos

XvArchonvX · Sep 27, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Just a tip, never take Barrage into RA. The elite I have had the best success with in RA is Escape {E}. Since if is a form of PvP in which you cannot rely on having a monk to heal/protect you, having a strong defense is very important. Use Apply Poison and Hunter's Shot to be able to lay down some degen then avoid damage. Also never leave home without at least one interupt if you are running a bow based build. I generally run this build:

Hunter's Shot
Savage Shot
Apply Poison
Barbed Trap or Pin Down
Throw Dirt
Escape {E}
Troll Unguent
Rez Sig

SnipiousMax · Sep 27, 2006, 06:39 PM // 18:39

Another thought....

High pressure damage builds (ie... Thumpers) leave alot of amatuer monks flat on their butt (oftentimes literally). Either an Enraged Lunge thumper build or a Ferocious Strike Thumper build work well enough in RA. So long as you don't go head to head with the bonehead spamming Riposte and Glads defense. <sigh> There is a thread in the Team Arena Builds section that talks about common TA builds (it's near the top) and any of those ranger builds will work fine.

You do however have to realize, that no matter how brilliant and infalible your build is... your success is dependant on three other randomly added sorted and assigned people. It can be incredibly frustrating to find yourself in a group that has 1.) No monk. or 2.) No damage output. You can squeak by without a Mesmer or Ele in RA... but unfortunately, you will get nowhere fast if your only warrior is spamming Defy Pain and Healing Breeze.

lennymon · Sep 27, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

personally I feel thumpers are great in ra, and I like to load wild blow if I can

XvArchonvX · Sep 27, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Another suggestion to try if you want something different is a dagger based ranger build such as the following:

Jagged Strike
Wild Strike
Horns of the Ox
Falling Spider
Lightning Reflexes
Escape {E}
Troll Unguent or Shadows Refuge
Rez Sig

lennymon · Sep 28, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36

ooh, yeah... another thingy to play around with that I've not done much of with my ranger: r/a thanks man

Forsaken Druid · Sep 30, 2006, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Heres a build that works well in RA

Fav Winds ( very useful for high dmg)
Crip Shot
Hunters Shot
Apply Poison
Throw Dirt
Res Sig
Troll
Savage Shot

dgb · Sep 30, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stranger The Ranger

Yeah, but I was getting really, really tired of those E/Mo Flashbots, I decided to take BHA for a little revenge

The build turned out pretty nice, and like I said, I won some glad points with it by shutting down most casters(most Monk just CoP it off ;<).
However, for TA, Cripshot > BHA all the way

Distracting Shot beats flashbot, 95% of flashbots are hopelessly predicitable, just count 4s then interupt it.

Sir Mad · Sep 30, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Very true.

Basically in RA if you're not a monk be as offensive as you can. Rangers are lucky enough to have expertise skills to keep them alive. 2 of them should do the job. IF you have a WS build, bring troll (a 10 arrows regen is more than welcome), otherwise i'd say forget it: 3 secs to cast for what? a 4 arrows regen is not worth it IMO. For the other skills, it depends on your mood, but make sure you deals a lot of damage. Punshot, cripshot (to screw the warrior), poison arrow + kindle or even ignite, are your best friends. Bring a preparation: apply poison or read the wind (for marks builds) or kindle (for WS builds). Spirits are not needed IMO: they're good only if you're in a spefic build, generally with other rangers - RA is too... randomish for that. Make sure as well you can SPAM your skills - after all that's what rangers are good at (which means: check the recharge time of your skills).

And for the "noob" part of your story: just mute the all chat.

MelechRic · Sep 30, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I've recently gone back to RA with my ranger for a bit of fun. Here are two builds that have gotten me a gladiator point:

Classic Choking Gas Ranger/Warrior:
Practiced Stance {E}
Choking Gas
Savage Shot / Debilitating Shot / Distracting Shot
Flurry
Throw Dirt
Whirling Defense
Rez Signet

Zealous Short Bow, Druid's Armor
14 WS
13 Exp
Rest in Marksmanship

Helps to have a monk on your team, but you can roll through casting based teams with this. When running this I've gotten quite a few "I hate you" and "FU and your choking gas" comments. No caster can withstand this build. The only thing that will stop it is heavy pressure from a warrior or assassin.

Another build I've run that's netted me a gladiator point is this one:

Read the Wind
Crippling Shot {E}
Marauder's Shot
Hunter's Shot
Savage Shot
Whirling Defense
Troll Unguent
Rez Signet

16 Marks
13 Exp
4 WS

+5 energy recurve bow with a crippling string. Grip is optional. I've been using a +1 Marks 20% grip because I had it sitting in storage. 30hp would probably be better. Maybe a +5 armor grip... Use whatever you like.

This build is great for removing pressure from your caster team members. If you're fortunate to have a monk then they will appreciate all the limping warriors/sins chasing them. Be sure to manage your energy well since spamming CS will deplete you quickly. I also use this build to cripple fleeing casters. Sins appreciate this because some of their skills trigger on the target having a condition.

Ismoke · Oct 03, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

try this !

16 MARKS
15 EXPERTISE
7 WS

1.HUNTERS
2.DISTRACTING
3.SAVAGE
4. PUNISHING
5.RTW
6.LIGTHING REFLEXS/WHIRLING
7.TROLL
8.REZ

Interupt everything! Fun and brutal>>>>>!

Sir Mad · Oct 04, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Do not try this: I doubt you have a long life expectancy in RA with 3 sup runes :roll:

Also remember you can't r-spike alone...

Munanko Roha · Oct 04, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Maybe I'm wrong but to achieve that point distribution you would need 2 Superior Runes and 1 Godly Rune (+4/-100), 3 superior wouldn't be enough!

I Brother Bloood I · Oct 04, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50

12 Dagger Mastery
14 Beast Mastery 10+3+1
9 Expertise 8+1<- Not Sure

Tigers Fury/Bestial Fury
Desperate Strike/Disrupting Stab
Fox Fangs
Repeating Strike
Ferocious Strike [E]
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Ressurection Signet

Daggers - Zealous Daggers Of Dagger Mastery
Green Daggers - Ungues Of The Oni